(09:02:43 PM) ausimage: k (09:02:56 PM) ausimage: First on the agenda is Past Events... (09:03:36 PM) ausimage: It has been since december since we discussed things... so a summary in total maybe best ;) (09:04:23 PM) cprofitt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/Past2009 (09:04:23 PM) ausimage: Rochester has been working with the lug there holding at least one meeting a month since december ? (09:05:15 PM) cprofitt: we have merged some of our meetings with LUGOR (09:05:24 PM) cprofitt: and have not held a sep. meeting per month (09:05:45 PM) ausimage: thats good (09:05:54 PM) cprofitt: we merged in April for OpenStreetMap (09:06:03 PM) cprofitt: and again this month... though that event happens this Thursday (09:06:14 PM) ausimage: Syracuse held one meetup... I see too (09:06:22 PM) cprofitt: Yes, I attended (09:06:39 PM) ausimage: and We also held an awesome Release Event IMHO (09:07:36 PM) cprofitt: Yes. (09:07:55 PM) cprofitt: What opinion do you have about the quality / content of our events in Rochester? (09:08:11 PM) ***hal14450 is biased (09:08:11 PM) ausimage: I think they are excellent... (09:08:37 PM) ausimage: did I miss any past events that need mentioning further (09:09:11 PM) cprofitt: did you check the page I linked too? (09:09:22 PM) ausimage: yeah... (09:09:27 PM) ausimage: quickly scanned (09:09:43 PM) ausimage: ah Ed tech day too (09:09:43 PM) cprofitt: k (09:09:54 PM) cprofitt: yeah that was in Ithaca (09:10:05 PM) cprofitt: though it was the Rochester group that made that happen (09:10:11 PM) cprofitt: hal14450, you here yet bro? (09:10:17 PM) hal14450: yep (09:10:19 PM) ausimage: a participatory event that we did not sponsor ;) (09:10:45 PM) ausimage: anything else to add to past events? (09:10:52 PM) hal14450: bar camp was fun (09:11:07 PM) ausimage: oh that too happend.... :) (09:11:30 PM) ausimage: k... any other old business to speak of? (09:11:45 PM) cprofitt: do you mean Future Events? (09:12:07 PM) ausimage: Past Event is old business ;) (09:12:17 PM) ausimage: future events is new business (09:12:37 PM) ausimage: at least at this time.. (09:12:38 PM) cprofitt: I was just following your agenda (09:12:50 PM) ausimage: Future events then (09:13:04 PM) cprofitt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/Upcoming (09:13:21 PM) cprofitt: We have a virtualization meeting Thursday (09:13:26 PM) cprofitt: and an install fest on the 30th (09:13:28 PM) hal14450: White Hat Security Day is the next "event" (09:13:39 PM) cprofitt: both are co-sponsored with Lugor (09:13:40 PM) hal14450: oh yeah the install fest ;-) (09:13:42 PM) ausimage: Rochester is kickin it ? (09:14:02 PM) cprofitt: Rochester is pretty much kicking the US ass (09:14:07 PM) cprofitt: but that is another issue (09:14:09 PM) ausimage: We need to get the Karmic Koala Release Event rolling too (09:14:24 PM) hal14450: i also have a meeting with micrecycle tomorrow in regards to adding ubuntu to the lineup there (09:14:44 PM) ausimage: awesome hal14450.... let me know how that goes (09:14:50 PM) hal14450: i will (09:15:03 PM) ausimage: Oh we also have a new LUG in the state too.... (09:15:17 PM) cprofitt: I think I already noted that ausimage (09:15:21 PM) hal14450: Carl will be attending w/ me he's also a lugor/LoCo/RCSI member (09:15:21 PM) ausimage: hopefully... and it is my area. ;) (09:15:38 PM) cprofitt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam (09:15:42 PM) cprofitt: look under goals (09:15:44 PM) ausimage: you coming down hal? (09:15:51 PM) hal14450: on the 9th of June deejoe and i will be doing an Open Street Map presentation for RCSI (09:16:02 PM) cprofitt: hal14450, can you add that to the wiki? (09:16:07 PM) hal14450: cool ausimage (09:16:10 PM) cprofitt: we need to record that event... and let people know (09:16:11 PM) hal14450: cprofitt, yes (09:16:31 PM) ausimage: so we are making connections with RCSI now too ? (09:17:00 PM) cprofitt: we already had them... but it is more formal now I guess (09:17:11 PM) ausimage: that is great... (09:17:26 PM) ausimage: we need to work on relations with the other LUGS too (09:17:41 PM) hal14450: i9 think we made progress @ the rls party (09:17:41 PM) cprofitt: We have some with SYRLUG and CAPLUG (09:17:54 PM) cprofitt: and we have a relationship with WNYLUG (09:18:00 PM) hal14450: yep (09:18:06 PM) cprofitt: I have offered to do presentations for WNYLUG (09:18:09 PM) ausimage: they are not listed? (09:18:11 PM) cprofitt: as of yet they only want hal14450 (09:18:15 PM) hal14450: we should promote OnLinux for this year as well (09:18:39 PM) cprofitt: we can add them to the page ausimage (09:18:43 PM) hal14450: cprofitt, did they want me to speak about OSM or Asterisk? (09:18:46 PM) cprofitt: as of yet we have not done anything... (09:18:50 PM) ausimage: yeah the cigar and pipe smoking fest eh hal14450? (09:18:57 PM) hal14450: haha (09:19:00 PM) cprofitt: so I would prefer to wait until we actually have done an event with them (09:19:02 PM) hal14450: no pipes (09:19:12 PM) ausimage: thats good. (09:19:16 PM) cprofitt: 'evidence' that we have accomplished it (09:19:19 PM) hal14450: Brian Powell has been out here a few times (09:19:27 PM) cprofitt: hal14450, he has (09:19:31 PM) hal14450: he will be @ the install fest (09:19:35 PM) cprofitt: as a Fedora Ambassador (09:19:54 PM) ausimage: Do we have ideas how to get more motivation and action out of our team? (09:19:55 PM) hal14450: well still it's a lug/lug connection right? (09:20:08 PM) cprofitt: ausimage, hold on... not done with future events (09:20:13 PM) ausimage: k (09:20:19 PM) hal14450: we have a boatload on the agenda (09:20:19 PM) ausimage: sorry for jumping (09:20:33 PM) ausimage: yeah I saw some of it (09:20:42 PM) cprofitt: http://pastebin.com/d6b4fb1d8 (09:20:53 PM) cprofitt: that includes some of the events that are confirmed for the fall (09:20:56 PM) cprofitt: and some that are not (09:21:19 PM) cprofitt: the biggest one I am focused on right now is this - http://ftbeowulf.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/nysflyer.jpg (09:21:26 PM) ***ausimage leaves it open to append to the page (09:21:31 PM) cprofitt: which I have fliers from System76 already (09:21:39 PM) ausimage: awesomne... (09:21:49 PM) cprofitt: and System76 will be providing a demo unit for (or two) (09:22:05 PM) hal14450: cprofitt, as far as the discs go for that event i doante my time and we pay for the media (09:22:16 PM) cprofitt: right... just need to know the cost of the media (09:22:29 PM) ausimage: Should discuss a little about karmic too I gues (09:22:39 PM) cprofitt: the summer events ausimage are with students from RIT giving the presentations (09:22:49 PM) cprofitt: so we are increasing our exposure on campus... (09:22:50 PM) ausimage: oh nice (09:22:52 PM) cprofitt: which is a good thing (09:22:54 PM) hal14450: i'd like to get a loaner/demo from another local retailer but i'll settle for something from micrecycle they really came through last time i asked (09:23:00 PM) cprofitt: we made those contact through BarCamp (09:23:08 PM) ausimage: awesome (09:23:24 PM) hal14450: yeah there's an untapped resource of students there (09:23:36 PM) ausimage: We really should have a seperate annoucement only list :/ (09:23:39 PM) cprofitt: I need to get some people in to cover the other topics - under ideas (09:23:41 PM) hal14450: i'm not sure why they haven't attended lugor in the past (09:23:52 PM) cprofitt: me either hal14450 (09:24:00 PM) cprofitt: perhaps it was the old men that scared them (09:24:08 PM) cprofitt: and the lack of Lugor participating 'out' (09:24:13 PM) hal14450: chris reich can probably do the podcasting thing (09:24:23 PM) cprofitt: yep... I will be contacting him on that (09:24:26 PM) ausimage: did they have a seperate on campus group too? (09:24:31 PM) cprofitt: I would like to get a home server dude too (09:24:42 PM) cprofitt: and a Bug Jam scheduled with Syracuse again (09:24:50 PM) ausimage: nice... (09:24:53 PM) hal14450: they have some groups there but i'm not sure how active they are (09:24:57 PM) cprofitt: ausimage, they had a Linux group... but from what we hear it does not meet regularly (09:25:03 PM) ausimage: k (09:25:11 PM) ausimage: that could be a reason (09:25:12 PM) hal14450: there is an opensoalris group as well (09:25:18 PM) hal14450: damn typos (09:25:21 PM) ausimage: ooh (09:25:22 PM) cprofitt: so as you can see we have a good chunk of events scheduled through December (09:25:40 PM) cprofitt: the only depressing part is Canonical has not responded about supporting NYSCATE (09:25:41 PM) ausimage: yeah... I only hope we spark as much out here too ;) (09:25:43 PM) cprofitt: with a booth (09:26:06 PM) ausimage: cprofitt: you try asking for matching money? (09:26:22 PM) cprofitt: I tried asking for the whole $750 (09:26:29 PM) cprofitt: they said they would talk about it... (09:26:42 PM) hal14450: we still have avenues to pursue on that yet (09:26:46 PM) ausimage: I thought you had a line on other money (09:26:58 PM) cprofitt: I do... Fedora (09:27:04 PM) cprofitt: Sugar Project (09:27:09 PM) hal14450: not money connections is what i was talking about (09:27:10 PM) cprofitt: and System76 (09:27:10 PM) ausimage: if they go half... perhaps Canonical would pick up the rest (09:27:32 PM) cprofitt: I would like to get a response from Canonical... (09:27:41 PM) ausimage: er what ever percentage... (09:27:45 PM) cprofitt: but if Fedora responds with a suggestion like that... (09:27:50 PM) cprofitt: we can pass that forward (09:27:59 PM) ausimage: cprofitt: you try pinging sabdfl himself :/ (09:28:00 PM) hal14450: if we do a workshop or two they'll likely be willing to drop the price as they charge attendees for workshops (09:28:02 PM) cprofitt: from the sounds of it... Fedora and Sugar may do booths (09:28:08 PM) cprofitt: ausimage, I did try him yes (09:28:12 PM) cprofitt: in the public meeting... (09:28:13 PM) ausimage: k (09:28:18 PM) cprofitt: his OpenWeek session (09:28:27 PM) ausimage: in private ;) (09:28:36 PM) hal14450: i'm really looking forward to nyscate it's the perfect opportunity (09:28:43 PM) ausimage: I think so too.. (09:28:58 PM) ausimage: hal14450: you think jaguar can kick us a mailing list? (09:29:00 PM) cprofitt: hal14450, it is... (09:29:25 PM) hal14450: ausimage, i can set us up a mailing list but what do we want this one for? (09:29:41 PM) ausimage: Announcements of events only.... (09:29:51 PM) ausimage: no posting 'cept by moderators... (09:29:55 PM) cprofitt: I do think that in working with other LUGs we need to have 'presenters' (09:29:58 PM) ausimage: who will post events (09:30:02 PM) hal14450: seems like a bit much lol (09:30:11 PM) cprofitt: available to go to their meetings / events (09:30:22 PM) cprofitt: We have a wiki for events -- and the mailing list... (09:30:26 PM) ausimage: That way people can sign up and keep track of events... (09:30:28 PM) cprofitt: not sure we need another one... (09:30:38 PM) hal14450: i can do it but that's just spreading the information sources wider which i think isn't necessarily a good thing (09:30:38 PM) ausimage: cprofitt: lugor has both ? (09:30:38 PM) cprofitt: we also have the Google Calendar (09:30:52 PM) cprofitt: I think we have too many spots and not enough people know where (09:30:58 PM) cprofitt: we have wiki, web, mailing list (09:31:00 PM) ausimage: I was thinking of those who consider planning noise... (09:31:05 PM) hal14450: best to consolidate imho (09:31:08 PM) cprofitt: Lugor has web - mailing list - mailing list (09:31:23 PM) ausimage: announce, discuss ? (09:31:28 PM) hal14450: well we have a planning list for those that want to get involved in planning (09:31:49 PM) hal14450: it's not private announcements only or anything (09:31:49 PM) cprofitt: Lugor does have a planning list (09:32:01 PM) cprofitt: and that would work... but we do not need a sep. for announcements (09:32:32 PM) ausimage: I was thinking perhaps ubuntu list... planning... and a different one for announcements ? (09:32:48 PM) hal14450: we can designate someone to send out emails to the everyone that is a member of the loco and or mailing list (09:32:51 PM) ausimage: but maybe that is not as good (09:33:19 PM) ausimage: we then need to maintain an address book seperate from the list :/ (09:33:45 PM) ausimage: to accumalate those interested in events... but really want involvement in the group ? (09:34:05 PM) hal14450: we have email addy's from lp yes? (09:34:18 PM) hal14450: and email addy's from list members right? (09:34:22 PM) ausimage: I have all the addies... webbie, lp, list (09:34:57 PM) hal14450: so no real need for a mailing list unless it's going to be interactive right? (09:35:01 PM) ausimage: my thought would be put them in one place... and just send email to that place and email goes to all (09:35:18 PM) hal14450: right that's what i mean (09:35:25 PM) hal14450: no need for a list (09:35:39 PM) ausimage: how do you control access to the magic list? (09:35:45 PM) ausimage: of addies? (09:35:47 PM) hal14450: just when an event is going to take place email all the members (09:36:25 PM) ausimage: I was thinking a single address authorized members could send to.... and it goes to the entire addie collection (09:36:32 PM) hal14450: you have them all so you can ask for a trusted volunteer or email a reminder for events when they happen (09:36:51 PM) ausimage: Guess that would work too (09:36:55 PM) cprofitt: I dunno... I am happy with the current email ist (09:37:00 PM) ausimage: k (09:37:07 PM) hal14450: so am i (09:37:08 PM) ausimage: just thinking loudly (09:37:30 PM) ausimage: A little on our Karmic Party... (09:37:37 PM) ausimage: then (09:37:59 PM) cprofitt: go ahead sir - what are your plans? (09:38:01 PM) ausimage: I would like to shoot for 90 this time in the same area... (09:38:32 PM) ausimage: is reasonable goal... and what can we do to support such gathering.... (09:38:39 PM) ausimage: raise enough interest.... (09:38:40 PM) ausimage: etc (09:39:05 PM) ***ausimage rather aim higher than lower ;) (09:39:37 PM) cprofitt: sounds like a good plan... (09:39:51 PM) hal14450: sounds good (09:40:07 PM) ausimage: I am thinking this warrants break out sessions (09:40:12 PM) cprofitt: I think sponsors will be needed for an event that size... but do you have a price on getting multiple rooms from the hotel -- assuming we use the hotel? (09:40:14 PM) ausimage: and a lab (09:40:29 PM) ausimage: I will need to check with the wife (09:40:34 PM) cprofitt: You and I discussed three presentation rooms and one lab (09:40:39 PM) ausimage: I am sure we will get a discount (09:40:42 PM) cprofitt: we have to make sure the lab can handle power reqs (09:40:48 PM) hal14450: let's not go too big (09:40:49 PM) ausimage: yeah ;) (09:41:06 PM) hal14450: the inet was pretty poor that weekend (09:41:13 PM) ausimage: no... but if we have 90... and want about 30 to a session (09:41:29 PM) ausimage: I may try a few things to improve that ;) (09:41:53 PM) cprofitt: I would suggest contacting Oracle about being a sponsor (09:42:03 PM) ausimage: Oracle? (09:42:07 PM) ausimage: Orielly? (09:42:12 PM) ausimage: hmm (09:42:14 PM) cprofitt: Oracle (09:42:25 PM) cprofitt: Orielly will send books (maybe) (09:42:34 PM) cprofitt: but I doubt they would provide cash (09:42:50 PM) ausimage: I am thinking maybe playing nice with TW would not hurt either... (09:43:06 PM) cprofitt: it might... or Verizon (09:43:13 PM) ausimage: oooh (09:43:13 PM) cprofitt: Or Newegg (09:43:15 PM) cprofitt: or Dell (09:43:37 PM) ausimage: I will put connectivity on my to do list... (09:43:46 PM) cprofitt: or HP (09:43:48 PM) cprofitt: etc... (09:43:53 PM) ausimage: yeah.... (09:43:59 PM) ausimage: need those sponsors (09:44:06 PM) cprofitt: If we have sponsors... they may want booths or some such... (09:44:13 PM) ausimage: Yeah... (09:44:15 PM) cprofitt: but I am not sure how to do a small show... (09:44:22 PM) ducky: Newegg FTW (09:44:27 PM) cprofitt: have you talked with the Ontario or Ohio organizers? (09:44:27 PM) ausimage: ducky: ! (09:44:32 PM) ausimage: no (09:44:54 PM) ausimage: perhaps hal14450 can ask OnLinux for pointers ? (09:44:58 PM) ducky: ontario show was amazing (09:45:13 PM) ausimage: ducky ideas? (09:45:17 PM) ausimage: comments? (09:45:26 PM) ducky: sorry i just got here (09:45:32 PM) ducky: illl have to read back (09:45:46 PM) ausimage: Karmic Koala Install Fest (09:45:53 PM) cprofitt: ausimage, if you are going to be lead organizer -- it would be good to have hal14450 setup an conference call (09:45:54 PM) hal14450: ausimage, we're not quite ready for that level yet lol (09:45:57 PM) cprofitt: but have you included... (09:46:06 PM) ausimage: er Release Evetn (09:46:14 PM) cprofitt: hal14450, we are not... but some of their ideas may transfer to us buidling (09:46:17 PM) cprofitt: building (09:46:22 PM) hal14450: agreed (09:46:28 PM) hal14450: i can ask richard for pointer (09:46:29 PM) ausimage: will I know that... but 90 will take a little time to make happen (09:46:33 PM) hal14450: pointers* (09:46:52 PM) ausimage: hal14450: I don't mind party calling Onlinux with you... (09:47:11 PM) ausimage: If I am lead... I am going to need a little more support too ;) (09:47:13 PM) hal14450: lol i was thinking about emailing richard (09:47:29 PM) hal14450: i'll help when and where i can (09:47:41 PM) cprofitt: ausimage, I am not sure who else is out there to be a lead... so it is kind of in your court (09:47:48 PM) cprofitt: I am sure we will help as we can... (09:47:49 PM) ausimage: whichever... just trying to feel out what needs to happen to triple attendance ;) (09:48:18 PM) ausimage: I will lead... but want help with sponsorships and sessions ;) (09:48:19 PM) hal14450: gotten in touch with HWS people since then? (09:48:33 PM) cprofitt: what help do you need ausimage ? (09:48:34 PM) ausimage: yeah... Scotty is in the new LUG with me (09:48:39 PM) hal14450: awesome (09:48:52 PM) cprofitt: I think we need one person to handle sponsorship stuff... (09:48:59 PM) ausimage: getting the sponsorships and locating speakers (09:48:59 PM) cprofitt: and one person to set the rooms up (09:49:07 PM) cprofitt: I can assist with speakers... (09:49:17 PM) ausimage: I don't mind coordinating the team (09:49:26 PM) cprofitt: I can suggest sponsors.. but I think you should contact them (09:49:40 PM) hal14450: i'll have to work on speaking more but if i can come up w/ a good talk i'll speak (09:49:42 PM) ausimage: k... I guess I can do that for nationals (09:49:57 PM) ausimage: hal14450: if you have leads there too ;) (09:49:58 PM) cprofitt: I just do not have the details they may need on the site, etc. (09:50:24 PM) ausimage: I will see about nailing it down by the end of may perhaps... (09:50:36 PM) cprofitt: I think grabbing local sponsors from Syracuse, etc can be guys there (09:50:41 PM) cprofitt: as they will have relationships (09:50:54 PM) cprofitt: I just do not want two or three people being the contact with a sponsor (09:50:58 PM) ausimage: Yeah... and those in rochester and ithaca can too (09:51:20 PM) ausimage: no one main per syracuse, ithace and rochester perhpas (09:51:24 PM) hal14450: i'll see what interest i can drum up locally for the event (09:51:24 PM) cprofitt: 'etc' yep... Albany, Rochester, Potsdam... etc. (09:51:37 PM) cprofitt: but I think one Rochester person (09:51:42 PM) cprofitt: one Syracuse person (09:51:43 PM) ausimage: yeah... (09:51:46 PM) hal14450: if we have a few speakers on good topics it will be a draw (09:51:53 PM) ausimage: yeah... (09:52:02 PM) cprofitt: that might rotate per event, but I do not want a potential sponsor feeling ganged up on... (09:52:13 PM) ausimage: true (09:52:14 PM) cprofitt: or that we are not organized because four people contact them (09:52:16 PM) hal14450: agreed (09:52:28 PM) ausimage: I can maintain a contacted list ;) (09:52:34 PM) hal14450: we need to make them feel included but not overwhelmed (09:52:39 PM) cprofitt: national / international sponsors need to be you or I (09:52:44 PM) cprofitt: as Pres / VP (09:52:44 PM) ausimage: and those that want to contact can let me know first (09:52:56 PM) ausimage: yeah... (09:53:31 PM) ausimage: lots of good ideas flowing the event (09:53:46 PM) ausimage: so to sum up... (09:54:06 PM) cprofitt: the timing of the event may play a role in that (09:54:21 PM) cprofitt: NYSCATE is in November and OnLinux is October I think (09:54:44 PM) cprofitt: I really think a 'big' spring thing may be a better target date -- but can understand the excitement (09:54:46 PM) ausimage: I will get a location with about 4 rooms... check connectivity, and coordinate other volunters... and also check national sponsors... :) (09:54:51 PM) cprofitt: of pushing for fall (09:55:28 PM) ausimage: cprofit is going to scout for talent and help with national sponsors.... (09:55:57 PM) ausimage: hal14450 was going to look at being the talent... and ? (09:56:02 PM) cprofitt: yep... can you add a wiki page with these 'tasks' and 'assignments' (09:56:11 PM) ausimage: yes I will (09:56:16 PM) cprofitt: perhaps leaving open slots will encourage some to 'grab' a slot (09:56:22 PM) ausimage: Yeah... (09:56:32 PM) hal14450: well i'll offer to speak if i can find a good talk and do it well (09:56:32 PM) cprofitt: I would like to use the Ubuntu wiki if possible as I think it is more accessible to editing by the group (09:56:42 PM) ausimage: I think I was look at the first nov weeken (09:56:50 PM) ausimage: definitely (09:57:05 PM) ausimage: cause... the last weekend of oct is halloween :/ (09:57:26 PM) ausimage: are there conflicts in this? (09:57:46 PM) hal14450: it's so far off i can't say (09:58:07 PM) ausimage: but agree not halloween weekend ? (09:58:08 PM) hal14450: i'd suggest beginning of Nov (09:58:45 PM) ausimage: good... I will get the location for the first or second weekend then? (09:58:50 PM) hal14450: you never know how busy rls wise things will be (09:59:00 PM) ausimage: yeah true (09:59:16 PM) ausimage: it may be an LTS too ? (09:59:48 PM) ausimage: well I guess I can shoot an email to the list as well about this... so lets move to the last bit (09:59:53 PM) ausimage: Raising Cain! (10:00:10 PM) ausimage: er I mean involvement and awareness :D (10:00:46 PM) ***cprofitt phone call (10:00:57 PM) ausimage: The karmic event and rochester events will help with the awareness.... (10:01:06 PM) ausimage: but the invovlement ?? (10:03:55 PM) ausimage: anything hal14450 (10:03:56 PM) hal14450: well we're working w/ local places such as micrecycle so that's a step in that direction (10:04:07 PM) ausimage: yeah true... (10:04:27 PM) ausimage: I think getting more involment is crucial to our growth (10:04:29 PM) hal14450: we get new faces quite a lot (10:06:09 PM) ausimage: new faces ~ new hands (10:08:16 PM) ausimage: guess we can continue this discussion any time... (10:08:42 PM) ausimage: next discussion will be 3rd week of June then ? (10:09:03 PM) ausimage: on monday at 9pm then (10:09:17 PM) ausimage: anything else before we end? (10:10:19 PM) ausimage: righty then till next time